SPEAKER_03 0:00

Hello and welcome to another Friday Night F4, the official podcast of the Vera Tools British F4 Championship, certified by FIA. This week I'm going to start by channelling my inner Lightning McQueen and say I feel the need, the need for speed. Yes, we are in Hampshire at the fastest track on the calendar, Truxton. Famous for its sweeping curves, bumps, and two heavy braking zones, the 2.36 mile circuit is often thought of as the ultimate test for drivers and teams. With average speeds of more than 100 miles per hour, the racing always delivers plenty of wheel-to-wheel battles and lots of slipstreaming, all of which is why this weekend is one of the most popular on the calendar. And so after a thrilling weekend at Zanvoort less than a fortnight ago, Britain's Formula 4 hopefuls are now ready to kickstart the second half of the season at one of the most demanding tracks, a circuit that requires nerve, concentration and pace. With eight different winners and a total of 19 different podium finishes already, the battle for supremacy is intensifying, with every point being crucial between now and the end of the season. As usual, we're expecting a huge track side crowd this weekend as the championship rejoins the British Touring Car Championship package, which brings with it live free-to-air TV coverage on ITV4. After taking pole position with two wins at Zanvoort, Dries van Langendock of Roden reignited his title charge and now tops the table with a very tidy 47-point lead over Lewis Werrell coming into this weekend. Van Langendock, who's part of the McLaren Driver Development Programme, was excellent in Zanvoort and I'm sure he'll be hoping to maintain that form as he seeks to further extend his advantage in the Drivers Championship. That said, the Points Hungry Chasing Pack know that they can't afford to lose any more ground to the relentless rookie. Multiple race winner Lewis Werrell at JHR Developments will definitely want to bounce back from a below palm, I think they're fair to stay by his standards trip to the Netherlands. While high-tech teammates Theo Palmer and Scott Kin Lindblum each have their sights, set on scoring maiden wins, having previously come so close to the top step. Ethan Jeff Hall at Argentia has been a winner this season and sitting fifth in the standings. He'll be confident that he can progress further up the order, come close of play on Sunday. Elsewhere, George Proudford Noulder at Virtuosi is continuing a decent streak after bagging a podium at Zanvoort. And he stays narrowly ahead of Adam Alazari, the double race winner Ethan Lennon. Virtuosi racing teammates Jarrett Clark and Joseph Smith complete the top ten, and they, along with many others, including Tommy Harfield, Kip Bolowski, and Chiara Batti, will also look to make their mark. I wonder if Chiara is still smiling after that very special weekend at the British Grand Prix. The weather looks favourable, and the whole grid is looking forward to a cracking qualifying and the three races over Saturday and Sunday. We've got another bumper edition for you this evening. So grab a drink, sit back and enjoy Friday Night F4 direct from the F4 Race Centre here at Thruxton. We give a warm welcome to Garartha Hand, who joins the grid this weekend at Argenti. Congratulate Ethan Lennon on getting back to the top step of the podium. Chat to JHR driver Timo Youngling about his recent form and bagging that impressive overtaking award last time out. And round off with Felber Twins Cash and Roman, marking their top ten together at Zanvoort. Plenty coming up on Friday nighter for Do Not Go Away. First up this week is roading team manager Richard Legg, still smiling after a very good outing at Zanvoort. Well Richard, good to uh to see you. It's warm at Thruxton already, isn't it? And it's gonna get warmer. It's quite humid. Um but we we like the good weather.

SPEAKER_02 4:39

Oh, it's lovely this year. Nice to uh have a sunny British championship.

SPEAKER_03 4:44

I was trying to think the last time we had any any rain uh in the championship, and I can't remember, can you?

SPEAKER_02 4:50

Uh teased us at Brandt on that Sunday, but wasn't fully wet. It was uh made for an exciting race that day, but yeah.

SPEAKER_03 4:57

It did. Uh now Rich, we uh just before we talk about Thruxton, uh which is I know all the drivers are looking forward to it, and we'll we'll talk about free practice uh first session, uh where you've got two drivers in the in the top two, uh, which is good. Zanvoort. I how big was the smile on your face by the time you packed up the trucks leaving Zanvoort? Uh rodin had a pretty good weekend.

SPEAKER_02 5:22

Yeah, it was a it was a strong weekend for the team for sure. You can't complain when you're double pole and win all three races, it's always nice to to show that potential, but it also means that it's there for for all of us, you know. That weekend we had four cars there, and our goal as a team is to have all four right at the front, so for there's always things to work on after a weekend like that, but yeah, it's always nice to uh to win races, that's what we what we come to do, isn't it?

SPEAKER_03 5:45

Yes, and and I guess I you know I'm sensing that that you're pushing all the time and you can always do better, I guess, is the the nice way of putting it.

SPEAKER_02 5:53

Yeah, I think I think that's the nature of it. He's like we spoke about briefly there, um the F3 FP having a second cover in 30 cars, you the moment you stop pushing is when you're when you're dropping down that order. So no matter how good the last weekend was, you can always there's always things to work on, isn't there?

SPEAKER_03 6:10

Absolutely. So when you've got a disparity across the garage, I mean in FP1 you've got Dries who who was quickest, Ethan who was uh who was second, and and they had good Zanvoort outings as well. When you've got a disparity across the garage, how do you, as as the team principal, deal with that? I mean you've got to do a bit of morale boosting for the ones who are perhaps not getting what they thought they might.

SPEAKER_02 6:31

Yeah, for sure, but it's also positive to show that the car, the team, and and what we're doing is strong enough, and at that point it's quite nice because then the data's in-house and we can sit, we can analyse what's going on in the session for potentially the other drivers, and then make a plan going forward on what we're gonna work on going into FP2 and be stronger tomorrow morning. So it's it's it's harder when you don't have the disparity in there, there's all of the cars are struggling. So um no, it's it's it's not a bad problem to have. We can we work through it.

SPEAKER_03 6:59

If they're all doing well though, you've got less to do.

SPEAKER_02 7:01

Uh I never have much to do.

SPEAKER_03 7:04

Like we've got that on record, the whole team can hear that now, you're in big trouble. Um Dries, let's talk about Dries first of all. Um, he uh was looking forward to Zanvoort um because I spoke to him on uh on the last uh last episode. And he went into Zanvoort seven points behind, uh left it 47 points ahead. That by anybody's standards is a good weekend.

SPEAKER_02 7:26

Yeah, it's a it's a good weekend, but it's also just a reminder of how quickly uh this championship can to and fro. I think you also saw that with uh obviously Louis Wellro had a very strong round three and round four, and at that point there was a big point swing there. So it comes back to us always keep pushing. There's there's still things to improve on from that weekend. Obviously, we didn't have the best, in Drees' case, didn't have the best race two. So we can analyse that and then all strive for more this weekend.

SPEAKER_03 7:51

Absolutely. Um and you know, Ethan had uh a reasonable showing as well, and he's coming into this weekend uh obviously with his his tail up, I think is the best way of putting it, isn't it?

SPEAKER_02 8:00

Yeah, Ethan's doing uh doing a good job working really hard and uh getting to show that that hard work coming off now, which is is really nice to see.

SPEAKER_03 8:08

Yeah. We've spoken before about uh this season feels we say this every year, don't we? But this season feels more competitive. The talent pool this season feels a lot closer. 30 cars on a grid a second uh across those 30 cars here at Truxton. Are the margins getting tighter for for when you look at all the data and what you're achieving uh each time the cars go out? Are those margins getting tighter?

SPEAKER_02 8:34

Yeah, I think uh it's crazily crazily competitive. I think we got an insight last year into what this championship was going to be, and the fact that we have eight teams on the grid and all team eight teams won a race last year, which is which is great. It shows the level of of the championship and how everyone operates. So from a team side, it's very competitive, and then like you say, you bring in that talent pool of drivers that every everyone's got, and yeah, we're looking at very small margins making the difference, especially around somewhere like Truxton.

SPEAKER_03 9:02

So, what does make the difference around Truxton? I mean, you need nerve, you've got to have the pace, and you've got to have the right setup, I know, but where what's the little spark that makes a difference around here?

SPEAKER_02 9:13

I think uh a lot of people will talk about tow being a big effect, but I think like we saw at Zamboort, red flags affecting qualifying and sessions like that. I think the importance on just having a clean run yourself, having good track position and executing what you can do. Um not focusing on on chasing something or or looking for that toe because it can that can all sometimes backfire. So um yeah, just executing what you can in your in yourself with the team with the car, us doing uh putting together a good run plan and a nice clean session, and that's all that's all you can really do, really.

SPEAKER_03 9:47

Yeah, and I think it's probably fair to say we've had quite a few interruptions to to all the sessions this season, haven't we? Because of the the close nature of the racing and and how competitive and in you know um I was gonna say aggressive, but that's not the word I mean. How focused the drivers are on trying to fit a quart into a pint pot sometimes when the the sp you're smiling, you know what I mean, when the space uh isn't there. But it does sometimes it must be a bit frustrating for you and particularly for the drivers when you're going out, you think I'm gonna have a good run, put in a really good time, and then all of a sudden the flag comes out.

SPEAKER_02 10:17

Yeah, I don't think it's been too bad though this year. I think for the nature of the circuits we go to in the UK, it's can be quite unforgiving, I think, is a good term to use, and uh to have 30 cars uh racing around there, and I think we've had plenty of clean racing. There's been some really good highlights from this year, some great overtaking. So uh I think it could have been a lot worse, but yeah, for sure, especially in qualifying, it's a little bit frustrating. But then that's when the you just have to try and adapt as as quickly as you can in the session and make the most of it.

SPEAKER_03 10:47

Absolutely. Um we always talk about the drivers and their performance, and we sometimes touch on you know the hard work that goes on in the awning with the the whole of the team. Uh from your perspective though, what's your biggest challenge in the job that you're doing with the team?

SPEAKER_02 11:01

Oh, that's hard. I think uh I'm very lucky we've got a very good team around us. The the boys are very good, the drivers, they've all geled really well with the mechanics. Obviously, we've spent a lot of time together this year. Um, with the Winter Championship as well, it's been pretty full on. I'd say um I think what you touched on earlier about potentially disparity in the garage, like it's it's hard when we don't have all our cars where we want them to be. I think uh that's a big thing that that we want because all of our drivers we believe in and we believe in uh what we're doing in the garage, like you say, and the hard work we're putting in. So yeah, it's we we aim to have all of them up the front.

SPEAKER_03 11:39

Yeah, absolutely. I I often chat to to the team principals um sort of uh informally and say, look, you've you've had a look at the grid, you've seen the drivers. Is there anybody in there who's the next Lando Norris, for example? And and everybody sort of talks to me informally, and there's no names, no pack drill, it's all all hush hush. And you know, a couple of names this season have have been mentioned. Have you have you spotted a potential F1 uh you know, grid member for the future?

SPEAKER_02 12:05

Well, I think there's there's a lot of talent on this grid. I think, especially compared to some previous years, this is a I reckon this is a year that we'll look back on in five years or so and think, wow, there's 10, 12 drivers in this grid that have really gone on to a really strong career in motorsport, maybe even more. I think it's uh yeah, very strong up the front. So no one, no one just yeah, as you can see from the stand-ins, like to and froing and the race wins going all around the grid.

SPEAKER_03 12:31

Yeah, absolutely. Maybe we'll we'll just make a note of that in the diary and we'll come back in a few years' time and say, do you know what? Richard was right. And you can tell me after do you think that might be, just between you and I. Uh on the on that driver front, a number of the drivers obviously we've got an international grid. Uh, they spend an awful lot of time travelling, they don't have much of a social life outside of of racing. And some of them will do other championships, maybe in uh in the UAE or in in Spain, Italy, wherever it might be. How imp how important is that? Or is it is it a can it be a hindrance? Because the car setups are slightly different, aren't they?

SPEAKER_02 13:03

Yeah, I think if you like ourselves, we went and competed in uh the Formula Winter series over at the beginning of the year. And yeah, it's slightly different, but it if you can control it in team, it's good when you your driver, if he's gonna do something extra, you do it all together. Um it's becomes slightly hard when your driver's doing stuff with different teams and then coming back to you because everyone operates slightly differently and has a different way of working, so that that can be tricky. But mileage is as long as it's good mileage, is is important for the drivers and and their progression, just that seat time you can see uh big progress from it. So absolutely.

SPEAKER_03 13:37

And you still enjoying the job?

SPEAKER_02 13:39

Loving it. Yeah, it's really good. Oh um, yeah, second year now, so I know a few more faces around the paddock, which is always nice, and then yeah, it's uh it's still still a very friendly paddock and enjoy working with amongst us.

SPEAKER_03 13:52

Which which is great to hear, and I remember we chatted when you when you first came in last year. And there was a I guess you know your experience in motorsport, but there was a there was a learning curve, wasn't there? Uh you're you're over that now, you've sort of I say plateau, don't want to suggest you're on the downhill side, but do you know what I mean?

SPEAKER_02 14:06

Yeah, no, I think that every day there's something to learn. There's new problems come up that we have to deal with, and I have to learn how to deal with that myself. And yeah, luckily I've got we've got good good people in Rodin as well that have uh assisted me along the way, and like I said, I've got the good team that we have, so uh yeah, they're very helpful uh on that journey for me.

SPEAKER_03 14:23

Fantastic. I should I suspect I know the answer to my final question, and that's prediction for the weekend.

SPEAKER_02 14:28

Oh, excitement. Oh, okay. Yeah, I don't think you can you've had we've had FP1. Obviously, we had an in-season official test here, but uh there's a lot of people very very quick and it's very close. I think what there was three attempts covering the top eight eight drivers there in FP1, so yeah, it will be uh yeah, I think it'll be exciting. The racing's always good here, so that's all we can ask for.

SPEAKER_03 14:50

Let's see if you leave Truxton with as big a smile on your face as you did leave Zamboard. I'm always smiling, don't worry about that. Good to see you, Richard. Have a great weekend. Thank you very much. Next, we welcome Cara Furhan to the F4 grid and the Indonesian driver who dropped by the race centre straight after FP1. Well, it's always good to welcome a new driver to the British F4 Championship. I'm delighted that Cara Ferhand joins me at your first race weekend in the British F4 Championship. Good to see you, looking forward to it. Yeah, nice to meet you too. Well, it's Truxton, which is a very quick track. Have you had much uh much seat time around here?

SPEAKER_07 15:27

No, actually, this is the first time testing here, so wow.

SPEAKER_03 15:30

What did you make of of Truxton?

SPEAKER_07 15:33

Uh like I did a lot of Simba, like the track was very fast for sure. It was quite hard, but yeah, I'll probably get used to it soon.

SPEAKER_03 15:41

Okay, that's good. So tell us a little bit about your background in motorsport, because there'll be a lot of people who who don't know you.

SPEAKER_07 15:48

So yeah, I started uh go-kart when I was five. And I started racing seven and nine and ten because I'm from Indonesia. I started to go to Europe and live in Europe. And I've been driving go-kart since I was seven, so just first time going to Seagull Sears, so very excited. This is also my first race. Right, wow, that's a big learning curve, isn't it?

SPEAKER_03 16:12

So you come out of karting and and go into an F4 car. What was that like? That must have been exciting and quite daunting as at the same time.

SPEAKER_07 16:20

Yeah, it's very exciting for sure. It's very happy and fun, but yeah, it's a bit hard for sure, it's a lot different than Go Kart, but yeah, it's been very fun.

SPEAKER_03 16:29

Absolutely. Um, what's been the biggest learning curve with with the F4 car? That's the difference to karting. What have you had to get your head around quickest?

SPEAKER_07 16:37

Probably the speed in general, yeah. The speed because it's much faster than Go-Kart for sure.

SPEAKER_03 16:42

Absolutely. Uh what about your um overall ambitions, um Carol in motorsport? I mean, where do you want to end up?

SPEAKER_07 16:48

For sure, I want to end up somewhere maybe an F1 or just some NGs or anything, but somewhere up there for sure.

SPEAKER_03 16:56

Yeah, absolutely. Um have you got any any sort of motor racing heroes? Are there other drivers who you follow you'd like to to emulate? Yeah, yeah, Lewis Hamilton. Oh, okay, okay, good choice. He's done he's done alright for himself, hasn't he? Yeah, he's been good, yeah. And and what's it been like coming into uh into the F4 uh paddock this weekend? I mean have you managed to start making making friends yet? Is it uh has it been okay settling in?

SPEAKER_07 17:19

Yeah, for sure, because first time um trying to meet everyone, make friends and everything. And yeah, it's been very fun for sure. Where's where's home for you? Where's back home? Home, I'm from Indonesia, so I go back there sometimes, but now I'm living in Italy.

SPEAKER_03 17:35

Oh, okay. So you're commuting over here for for these for this round and and any other uh rounds that you might do from Italy.

SPEAKER_07 17:41

Yeah, but I'm gonna move to the UK soon.

SPEAKER_03 17:43

Oh, okay. Why why Italy? Why are you living in Italy? Any particular reason?

SPEAKER_07 17:47

Because uh most of my races last year was mostly in Italy, so I guess there.

SPEAKER_03 17:52

Was that the carting races? Yeah, carting races. Okay. Italy's not a bad place to live, that's quite nice. Yeah, it's a nice place. And I guess going home to uh to Indonesia, that's that's a long haul flight, isn't it?

SPEAKER_07 18:02

That's uh Yeah, it's like 15 hours or 15 hours, goodness me.

SPEAKER_03 18:06

So when was the last time you went home?

SPEAKER_07 18:09

Probably like January, December, January.

SPEAKER_03 18:11

Okay. Do you miss it?

SPEAKER_07 18:12

Yeah, for sure.

SPEAKER_03 18:14

Do you keep in touch with with friends back home though using social media and things? Yeah, for sure, for sure. Yeah. I are are your are your friends involved in motorsport or or not, right?

SPEAKER_07 18:23

Yeah, some of them, yeah. Yeah.

SPEAKER_03 18:25

And do they follow your your career?

SPEAKER_07 18:27

Yeah, yeah, most of them, yeah.

SPEAKER_03 18:28

Will they be watching this weekend on the uh the YouTube channel?

SPEAKER_07 18:31

Yeah, I think most of them, like uh a lot of them, we're gonna watch. So yeah.

SPEAKER_03 18:35

Yeah, absolutely. And have you uh do you do you have so are you on social media? Yeah, yeah, I have social media.

SPEAKER_07 18:39

What's your handle on social media? So um my social media is Carf Ran on Instagram and TikTok.

SPEAKER_03 18:44

Okay. And have you got a big following?

SPEAKER_07 18:46

Yeah, yeah, yeah, quite a big following. I think I have like 210k or something. Wow. So yeah, big following, yeah.

SPEAKER_03 18:52

That is a big following. Fantastic, that's really good. And on Sundays uh in the British F4 Championship, there is an autograph session where you all sit down and line up and the fans line up to to sign autographs. You're looking forward to that? Yeah, for sure. Looking forward to that.

SPEAKER_07 19:05

Have you got a good signature or is it uh I think I do. Okay. I don't know what people think, but for me, I think it's a good signature.

SPEAKER_03 19:11

Some of some of the drivers just have these squiggles and you can't you can't understand what it is. Can you can you actually tell it's your name or is it very stylish? No, you can tell my name a lot. Okay, okay. Well, the the opportunities there for the fans coming along to get that just in case you you end up in Formula One and they'll say they've got your your autograph from uh from F4. Um, what you are you hoping to to have achieved this weekend, Carol? By the time we we finish on Sunday, I mean you're new to the championship, you've not driven thruxton, you've got one session around Thruxton so far. What are you hoping to have achieved by the end of this weekend?

SPEAKER_07 19:43

For sure to gain experience, learn the most I could because uh I don't have to prove nothing much because it's my first year, so I never tested here, so for sure to just improve and getting used to the formula for racing.

SPEAKER_03 19:55

Yeah, yeah, absolutely. I and is this the the start of you maybe doing another season coming back? Is this a a taster and a tester for you? Do you do you want to come back and do uh do next year maybe?

SPEAKER_07 20:07

Yeah, I think I'll probably come back for next year for sure. Just this just to get used to for for next year.

SPEAKER_03 20:12

Yeah, absolutely. It's a big learning curve, isn't it?

SPEAKER_07 20:15

Yeah.

SPEAKER_03 20:15

It looks like you're enjoying it though. Yeah, for sure, enjoying it for sure. And the weather's gonna be decent this weekend. Yeah, it's it's looking decent and very nice. Truxton in the wet, I can't imagine what it's like driving around Truxton in the wet. That's gonna be hard for sure. Yeah, absolutely. Welcome to the championship, Car. It's really good to see you, uh, and I hope you have a great weekend. Okay, thank you. Thank you. A good showing in Zanvoort. Mend that Ethan Lennon arrives at Thruxton with a new momentum, and after a very good FP1, which set him up nicely for this weekend. Well, Ethan, uh FP1 is when I catch up with you. You come into the uh the race centre here at uh Thruxton. A decent session for you.

SPEAKER_06 20:54

Yeah, I mean it was uh pretty good. I mainly put most of it together of the two corners that I can. Um lost a bit of time in the last corner, just made a small mistake not breaking late enough. But yeah, besides that, I put it all together and managed to get a good position.

SPEAKER_03 21:08

I mean you come into Truxton with a bit of added momentum, don't you? Because you had a pretty good Zan vault.

SPEAKER_06 21:14

Yeah, I mean it was pretty good. I didn't get the best in qualifying due to a red flag, so that was not the best qualifying I've had, but managed to qualify 11th to get a good start for race two, and yeah, I just I think I delivered on my part, so yeah, it's pretty good.

SPEAKER_03 21:30

Absolutely. I mean we're sort of halfway-ish through throughout the season now, and you've you've had your ups and downs as as every driver does. But I I'm I'm seeing consistency now coming coming into your performances. Are you feeling that as well? That you're you're really getting to grips with it.

SPEAKER_06 21:44

Yeah, I definitely am. I mean, consistency is the most important part to fight for a championship or just be in that top top part. So yeah, it's been quite good just to working on that throughout the season and yeah, hope there's more pace to come.

SPEAKER_03 21:57

Absolutely. And is that is that pace Do you find that pace from your performance or from working with the team to to tweak the car? Where where is that extra tenth or thousandth of a second that you want to find?

SPEAKER_06 22:10

I'd say mainly it's a mix between the two. I think Roden has been delivering quite well throughout the season. There's been ups and downs, but I think it's been going well.

SPEAKER_03 22:19

Yeah, absolutely. You're looking a lot more comfortable both in the car and when you get out of it as well. Do you feel that you've really got sort of feet under the table and you're you're comfortable in the series now?

SPEAKER_06 22:29

Uh yeah, it's really good. I mean, I've been with Roden for I think nearly a year now, so I'm quite comfortable with the team, the series, uh yeah, especially with FWS helped FWS helped quite a lot.

SPEAKER_03 22:41

Absolutely. What's been the biggest learning point for for you, Ethan? From if thinking back to the beginning of the season when we when we first spoke, I mean what's been the biggest learning point for you this year?

SPEAKER_06 22:51

I'd say as you mentioned, consistency, not making stupid moves and just trying to like consistently finish top six, I would say, not doing anything that could potentially get you out of a race because all points matter. So I mean if it's the last lap and you're second and you can get first for like a championship fight, then it's worth it. But when you're uh P5-ish, just don't risk it.

SPEAKER_03 23:14

Yeah, absolutely. So I mean that's an interesting point, isn't it? Because that's when the thinking cap goes on, and you say, Well, I I could push, but and and you have to settle for second, bag the points, bring the car home in one piece. And that that's part of the development of uh of your sort of racecraft, isn't it?

SPEAKER_06 23:32

Yeah, that's really important, just making sure that you're always consistently getting points and not again not doing anything too risky.

SPEAKER_03 23:39

Yeah, absolutely. So Truxton, it's gonna be a warm one again this weekend. It's the quickest uh circuit on the calendar. Do you like Truxton, first of all?

SPEAKER_06 23:49

Um I'm I wouldn't say it's my favourite track, but there are good elements to it. Um it's very high speed, so it does demand quite a lot physically from the driver, just pulling quite a lot of G through the corner. But yeah, it's not the best track and not the worst track. It has some good parts and some bad parts.

SPEAKER_03 24:06

What's the key to getting it right around here? Is it the concentration? Is it carrying as much speed through the corners as you can? Is it is it knowing when to back off or slipstreaming maybe? I mean, what's the key to it around here?

SPEAKER_06 24:18

I mean slipstreaming can definitely help, but I wouldn't say it's the main thing. That session I just did there, I didn't have any slipstream and I thought it went quite well. Yeah. Um I'd say staying mentally focused is quite important. I mean, I think it would be quite difficult around here because there's such long straights between the first and last corner. But yeah, I'd say just focusing on exits and being focused.

SPEAKER_03 24:41

Yeah, absolutely. Um what do you do with your downtime? Well, first of all, the question is do you get any downtime or are you 101% focused? I mean, all the drivers are sort of saying the same, you know, they're they're talking to people back home or they might be jaunting back home again or whatever else. I mean, do you do you get much much downtime? And if so, what do you do?

SPEAKER_06 25:00

Uh I'd say I don't really get any downtime. I mean, our house is in South Africa, so we're really commuting sometimes there and back, but most of the time you just stay somewhere in the UK. And I wouldn't say I get much downtime because I usually after a race weekend I get home, then the next day I'll do school and simulator, so just preparing for the next race all the time.

SPEAKER_03 25:23

That's a lot of input and a lot of effort, isn't it? So I mean when you when you do get back home, I mean do you manage to switch off? Do you manage to go and see friends and uh and chill out?

SPEAKER_06 25:32

Not really. Again, it's just like just like being here, you just do school and then try prepare on the simulator to be as bred as you can. Yeah. Try get the edge on anyone. Do you like the schooling bit?

SPEAKER_03 25:43

Are you an academic? No. I don't think anyone does. I don't know. I quite like school. What's your best subject?

SPEAKER_06 25:53

I'd say I'm the best at math. Science is my worst though. Oh, is it? Science are English.

SPEAKER_03 26:00

Right, okay. Well having maths is good. Maths is good, that's fantastic. And what about the sort of cultural differences, Ethan? I mean, do you know do you notice that are they big between back home in South Africa and what you would do and and bit Where where do you live over here? What area do you live in over here? Just outside of Cambridge. Oh, okay. So I mean Cambridge is a lovely, lovely city, of course. I mean, do you do you get much time to go and enjoy the culture of Cambridge or or soak up, you know, what does Brits do?

SPEAKER_06 26:25

Uh yeah, I mean, sometimes it's very nice in there, so occasionally we'll just go in to get some food, maybe do some shopping. And yeah, it's not I wouldn't say it's a big difference to Cape Town where I live. The only real difference is the structures, like in Cambridge, there's a lot of history, like cool buildings and stuff, but in Cape Town it's quite plain.

SPEAKER_03 26:47

Yeah, yeah. There are some nice parts of Cape Town, aren't you? The harbour area that they all did for when the World Cup was on, it was fantastic, wasn't it? And it's changed changed dramatically, hasn't it? Uh that that whole sort of Cape Town area and Camps Bay and things. Lots of evolution over time. Yeah. And has that all been a good thing? Do you think do you think things are better over in in Cape Town now?

SPEAKER_06 27:09

Uh yeah, I'd say it's getting better slowly. There's quite a bit of corruption there, but with like money and stuff, but I think it's it's slowly getting better as like people start to realise.

SPEAKER_03 27:19

Yeah. Um you've got any favourite things about the UK that you you didn't know about or you've come to like? I mean I was talking to one of the drivers who's got a love for steak and kidney pies. Which um I don't really know, because I think I definitely prefer South Africa to be honest.

SPEAKER_06 27:39

I think everything's a lot closer, tracks and stuff. Okay. Well it feels like here everything's really far away. Like every track's at least two, three hour drives. Yeah. So it can be quite tough when you're also moving around all the time. Yeah. But something I like. I mean, the scenery and stuff in some places like the Cotswolds can be quite nice. So definitely that. Fantastic.

SPEAKER_03 28:03

That's what you need, a little retirement home in the Cotswolds, or sort of a holiday home in the Cotswolds would be good, wouldn't it? Um, okay, just finally, what uh what are you looking for this weekend? I'm gonna say minimum of a podium, um, but putting points in the bag, bringing the car home in one piece. I mean, what's your expectation of what you'll have achieved by the time we go home on Sunday?

SPEAKER_06 28:22

Um I would say a win would be quite nice. I mean, if we keep this pace and improve on the things I need to work on, I think that could definitely be achievable. I think one of the things I've been wanting this year is to podium consistently throughout a weekend or get a win in race one or race three where you get the most points. I mean I've consistently been quite good in race two, but of course, if you win a race two, you don't get as many points, so it's not as good for the championship. I think if you consistently finish sixth, first, and sixth throughout a weekend, you still won't get as many points as if you win one race in race one or three. So probably just consistently in the front in race one and three.

SPEAKER_03 29:02

Absolutely. See your explanation there about the points shows you're good at maths. Because I couldn't have worked that out. You've done really well there, Ethan. Ethan, it's been a real pleasure to watch you develop in that first half of the season, and uh I really do wish you well, not just for Truxton, but for the rest of the season as well. So for now, many thanks. Have a have a great weekend. Thank you very much. Timo Youngling has proved his overtaking capabilities with the award from the Zanvoort outing, making up 31 places over the weekend, and he's now looking for another good weekend at Thruxton. Timo, good to uh to see you. You're smiling already, which is good, aren't you? You walked in you walked into the race centre with a smile on your face, so that's good. Looking forward to Truxton.

SPEAKER_04 29:39

Yeah, I think it is. It's the fastest track in the UK, so I think it's interesting, and also like there's a lot of slipstream, so the racing will be a bit a bit a bit more fun than other tracks.

SPEAKER_03 29:47

Yeah, absolutely. Um sum up your season for me so far. What's the biggest thing that you've learned in the first half of the season?

SPEAKER_04 29:55

Uh single seaters is very different uh different from carding. Um I think I've shown a lot of potential this season, and I think um I've um I mean I found the season I expected. I expected to be more at the front, but there's still four races left of the season, I think. So I think there's still more, but I think I've won a race this season. I've shown good potential a lot of the times in qualifying. Other times I've been a bit unlucky, but I think the potential is there, so I just need to um uh deliver on it a bit more.

SPEAKER_03 30:24

Yeah, absolutely. I and are you finding that you're you're finding that consistency now in in terms of your your lap times and your performances and therefore the points that you can put in the bag? I think it's getting better, of course.

SPEAKER_04 30:34

There's still a lot of things to work on.

SPEAKER_03 30:36

Yeah. Like what? What what are the key things that you know when you when you sit at home before you go to a race weekend, you think right, this weekend I've got to focus on on what?

SPEAKER_04 30:45

Uh just putting it all together, of course, qualifying is the most important thing. If you start up out the front of the races, you're most likely gonna finish there. So just putting everything together and qualifying, learning what you need to do in the practice sessions and then yeah, delivering it for qualifying.

SPEAKER_03 30:58

Yeah, absolutely. And Thruxton is a particular circuit, isn't it? That demands a lot of concentration because it's it's so quick. Do you like it around here?

SPEAKER_04 31:05

Yeah, it's fun, yeah, it's different to all the other tracks. It's fun though.

SPEAKER_03 31:09

Because it's so quick.

SPEAKER_04 31:10

Yeah.

unknown 31:11

Yeah.

SPEAKER_04 31:11

And also, I mean, there's only like two real corners. So which of those? Just for people who don't know, extended. T2, T3, and I think T10, T11. Yeah. So both sort of chicanes.

SPEAKER_03 31:21

How how difficult is it to find the right setup here? Or is it is it purely about speed, or or have you got to try and find that that bit of downforce as well?

SPEAKER_04 31:30

I mean, really, it's it's all about how much speed you can get out of the of the chicanes, because uh apart from that, everything's flat until the last chicane. So it's about having as much speed as possible through the shik chicanes and then getting a slip stream, and then your lab's pretty much sorted out.

SPEAKER_03 31:44

Yeah, absolutely. So I mean uh you must be hoping for a podium or certainly top six maybe this weekend.

SPEAKER_04 31:50

I mean yeah, coming on and yeah, I mean we'll see we'll see what happens, but I just need to keep uh you know yeah, uh keep doing the best job that I can and then we'll see where I end up.

SPEAKER_03 31:59

Are you enjoying your season?

SPEAKER_04 32:01

Yeah, it's fun. Yeah. Fun. Even when it doesn't go right, it's still next time fun. Not always, but I think for the good part the season's been fun, you know. It's with a new team, learning different people, meeting new people. Yeah. It's always uh interesting.

SPEAKER_03 32:14

Yeah. You've already mentioned that the the the F4 is very different to karting. Is that has that been a big learning curve for you? Were you surprised by it?

SPEAKER_04 32:21

I'm surprised how different it was. I mean, um yeah, it's it's more different than I ever could have imagined. So it's a lot of getting used to still, of course, every single week you're learning new things, different things.

SPEAKER_03 32:33

So yeah, yeah. Yeah, absolutely. Um how much downtime do you get? Or are you completely a hundred percent on it with uh sim work and gym and and all the rest of it? But did you get any any downtime to chill out and and do other things?

SPEAKER_04 32:48

Yeah, you get some, you get I mean, uh that was a big s uh break from what was it? Um was it what is it from uh Svenating?

SPEAKER_03 32:56

Yeah, we had we had a like a month off almost.

SPEAKER_04 32:59

Yeah, so of course you've got sometimes. I went to Austria actually uh for like a week or so, so yeah, you do get a bit of downtime to enjoy yourself.

SPEAKER_03 33:05

Yeah, I'm thinking can you switch off or do you do you need to stay in the zone or are you able are you the sort of person that can switch off? Uh it depends.

SPEAKER_04 33:16

Everyone's gonna switch off a little bit. But yeah, it's good to switch off, take your minds off things, and then you come back uh uh your mind more refreshed and better to go.

SPEAKER_03 33:24

Yeah, I mean, and do you spend your time just sort of chilling out or do you play another sport or what do you do?

SPEAKER_04 33:30

I do a lot of uh fitness, like running, I go to the gym, um and yeah, I just chill. Other than that, I've got a simulator, so I play on that sometimes. Yeah, yeah. Um and yeah, I mean I've got some friends, so of course I go see them.

SPEAKER_03 33:45

Yeah. I I mean you're away from them quite a lot, aren't you? Do you keep in touch through FaceTime and Snapchat, yeah. Snapchat is okay.

SPEAKER_04 33:52

Yeah, it's it's the new it's an advert which everyone uses.

SPEAKER_03 33:55

So Ah right, okay. So everything everything's see, I'm really old, so I'm I'm still using Facebook, but everyone's on Snapchat, is that something? And Skype or something. Yeah. Yeah, absolutely. So I mean I mean I mean and what are you what are you posting? Stuff that you're doing or stuff you're racing or just messaging, yeah.

SPEAKER_04 34:10

Yeah, I mean the stories of course where you can check what other people are doing and gossiping about what people are doing back home.

SPEAKER_03 34:15

Yeah. So your group of friends, are they involved in uh in motorsport as well? Or are you are you the are you the racing?

SPEAKER_04 34:22

Yeah, mate, most of my friends are involved in motorsport, not not just here, but I got friends also from uh carding. Of course, a lot of most people here come from carding, but I also have a group of friends which are carding um as well, so I go and see them.

SPEAKER_03 34:36

Yeah, absolutely. Um let's look into a crystal ball, Tim, and go to to the end of the season. Where would you like to end up? What would you like to have achieved uh this season?

SPEAKER_04 34:45

I would say what I would like to achieve is just a pole position in one of the races, and of course, winning not a reverse grid race but an actual one. I think that's a good achievement. Um obviously it's my first year, so just developing learning everything that I can from each race, each practice, and then um yeah, see what happens next year. But I think just um yeah, I think a pole position would mean uh mean the war to me.

SPEAKER_03 35:07

I wish people could see the smile on your face when you say pole position. That sums it up, really. The desire is there in you, isn't it? You you really want that.

SPEAKER_04 35:15

Yeah.

SPEAKER_03 35:16

Yeah. That's gonna be well, maybe Truxton is where you where you achieve it. We'll see. Who knows? We shall see. Um have a great weekend. Enjoy Truxton and uh the very best for the rest of the season as well. Now, as a little extra this week, a musical interlude. Guest reporter Jake Taylor caught up with some of the drivers to find out more about their playlist preferences.

SPEAKER_05 35:36

One thing you notice when walking on the F4 paddock is the sound of music and a very, very playlist with lots of different artists and stuff. I wonder what some of the drivers are listening to, and who are their favourite artists?

SPEAKER_07 35:52

I really like it.

SPEAKER_00 36:12

I don't really have to like a favourite.

SPEAKER_01 36:18

I do like it depends on the thing you want to listen to. I do like to listen to Hollywood's music, especially in the summer. And like in the evening, it's more like I don't really think I have a favourite song. What I do like sometimes is um Halry Swin. Yeah.

SPEAKER_03 36:35

And rounding off this week, uh Cash and Roman Felder Racing Brothers, who had top ten finishes at Zanvoort. Cash and Roman Felder. You're not the terrible twins, are you? No. But you are twins, and and you know, it's been quite fun this season. I just had to ask the question because you're so alike. I mean, I'm trying to work out if there's like a hairstyle difference. Um, I don't know. I can't think so right now. So, um, Thruxton we'll talk about in uh a second, but Zanvort was a pretty good outing for the both of you, wasn't it, Cash?

SPEAKER_08 37:10

Uh yeah, it was okay. Messed up quality a bit. But our second lap was pretty good, so that put us starting P7. And uh yeah, we still finished the points. I think we finished eighth.

SPEAKER_03 37:18

Did you enjoy Zanfort? It's a nice circuit, isn't it?

SPEAKER_08 37:20

Yeah, it's a pretty fun circuit.

SPEAKER_03 37:21

Yeah, and you must like it even more now because you've got the good weekend there. Um and uh Roman, what about you? Did you you must have enjoyed Zanvoort as well?

SPEAKER_08 37:29

No, yeah, I made a mistake of my quality lap, which definitely put us out of position for the last two races. My second lap was uh it was alright, sorry like P12 or something, made a P like P9 or something, so yeah, it was fine.

SPEAKER_03 37:41

Yeah, yeah. Um how how interesting or or challenging is it sometimes with you both being brothers, twins, and in a in a race team and being competitive? I mean, do you manage to keep it brotherly?

SPEAKER_08 37:53

Yeah, it's chill, yeah.

SPEAKER_03 37:55

Well you're nodding, that's that's good, no big arguments then. Yeah, no, really. Okay. And what about you know, sharing of uh of information and data and stuff? I mean, do you do you chat between the between the two of you about getting the best out of each of your performances?

SPEAKER_08 38:08

Um we kind of chat as a whole team, so yeah. Yeah. Just um yeah, seeing what we can all improve.

SPEAKER_03 38:13

Okay. And and um you're you're based in the UK for for the season, aren't you? Um how's that working out? Are you in are you enjoying living in in the UK?

SPEAKER_08 38:22

Yeah, yeah, I do. It's good.

SPEAKER_03 38:24

Whereabouts are you whereabouts are you based? Um we live in Northampton. Oh okay. Yeah. Right. So very close to Silverstone, I guess. Yeah, very close. Centre of world motorsport without a shadow of a doubt. Well uh cultural differences. Where where's back home for you in this in the States? Uh uh like Cleveland, Ohio. Ohio, right. How different is Cleveland, Ohio, to Northampton where you're living?

SPEAKER_08 38:46

Much different. In what way? Uh Cleveland's like kind of like a big city. Northampton is like more of a village, I guess you'd say. Okay. Yeah. And then there's a bit more shops, like, and then it's just a bit more modern everywhere.

SPEAKER_03 38:58

Yeah.

SPEAKER_08 38:58

Yeah.

SPEAKER_03 38:59

Absolutely. Then what about the food, Remy? Are you are you into British food?

SPEAKER_08 39:02

I do I do like like pies and stuff like that, yeah. Right.

SPEAKER_03 39:05

A steak and kidney pie, maybe or something?

SPEAKER_08 39:07

Uh no, like chicken and ham and like.

SPEAKER_03 39:10

So it British pies. Let's hear it for British pies. That's fantastic. Really well done. Do you miss anything about home? Back home.

SPEAKER_08 39:18

Um, my cats in my simulator.

SPEAKER_03 39:20

Oh, okay.

SPEAKER_08 39:21

Yeah.

SPEAKER_03 39:21

How many cats have you got?

SPEAKER_08 39:23

We got what, four? Four cats? Four cats.

SPEAKER_03 39:25

Can you remember you must be able to rem remember the names.

SPEAKER_08 39:28

Yeah, I do. Go on. Um, just Morgo, Wookiee, uh, Loki, and Kalet.

SPEAKER_03 39:33

Okay. Yeah, yeah. Are you both cat lovers? I mean, do you both look after that?

SPEAKER_08 39:37

Well, two of them are my sisters and then.

SPEAKER_03 39:39

Right.

SPEAKER_08 39:40

Yeah, one minor one, I says.

SPEAKER_03 39:42

So uh you come from a big family. Have you you've got this sister, obviously, but uh are there other siblings as well? Or is it just the three of you? Yeah, just the family sort of a motor racing family.

SPEAKER_08 39:52

Yeah, they're all into it, yeah. But they don't really uh our sister only came here once and our mom here twice.

SPEAKER_03 39:57

Right, okay. She d she's not a she's not gonna become a driver, is she?

SPEAKER_08 40:01

Or no no, no.

SPEAKER_03 40:03

She likes watching it and watching it. Yeah, she likes watching it. Okay. You're both on social media, I guess, are you? Everybody's on social media. Just just tell us what your your handles are in case anybody wants to follow you.

SPEAKER_08 40:12

Uh my Instagram is just my name, Cash Felber.

SPEAKER_03 40:14

Okay. Same for me, just my name on. Okay, so and and what sort of numbers are we talking about? Have you got big followers?

SPEAKER_08 40:20

I think I got like on like 14k. Okay. Yeah.

SPEAKER_03 40:24

Right. Do you use it a lot? Do you use that as a word?

SPEAKER_08 40:26

Yeah, but he's got a lot more followers than me. Oh, have you?

SPEAKER_03 40:29

How many of you got it?

SPEAKER_08 40:29

Like 50k, not. Have you?

SPEAKER_03 40:32

Wow, gosh. And uh a lot of those I I guess will be friends back home as well who follows. Yeah.

SPEAKER_08 40:39

A lot of them are probably bots and stuff like that, too. Oh, okay. Yeah, bot accounts, yeah.

SPEAKER_03 40:45

Right. We'll keep that one quiet though, don't we? But it's still an impressive impressive number. And friends, friends back home, uh back in in Cleveland, are they are they following your your careers? Do they you know watch the feeds on the channel? And you you get feedback from them?

SPEAKER_08 40:58

Yeah, definitely like it.

SPEAKER_03 40:59

I got people messaging me sometimes. Do you? Okay. With encouragement or criticism about could have done better. Yeah, definitely encouragement. Excellent. So, uh, what do you get up to when you're when you're not racing? I mean, obviously you've just had some time off. We went to Zanvourt last weekend, which was, as we've already said, was a great one for you, both of you in the top ten uh for the first time, which is really good. And and I think, if I can say so, shows a real development of your d both of your your driving performances over the season. Um what do you do in in downtime that you've got? Do you do it together or do you go separately? I mean, what do you get up to?

SPEAKER_08 41:31

No, I just drive my sim most of the time.

SPEAKER_03 41:33

Okay.

SPEAKER_08 41:34

Yeah, and go to the gym. Go to the gym, drive the sim, uh kick the football a little bit, but that's really it. There's not much to do around Northampton.

SPEAKER_03 41:41

Uh you play football or watch football?

SPEAKER_08 41:43

Uh kick it. We just like play on our back here.

SPEAKER_03 41:45

Oh, okay. World Cup obviously has just been over in uh did did you follow that? Did you follow the World Cup?

SPEAKER_08 41:50

I watched a little bit, but okay.

SPEAKER_03 41:52

It's well soccer as you would call it, yeah. Correctly called football, but that's another discussion. Do you think it's taking off uh in in the States now? There seems to be a lot of definitely since the World Cup was over there.

SPEAKER_08 42:02

Yeah, more people like it.

SPEAKER_03 42:03

Do you follow any teams?

SPEAKER_08 42:05

Not really. I just uh just watched it.

SPEAKER_03 42:07

I mean the football season over here doesn't start until sort of back end of August. Yeah, but you might have opportunity perhaps to go and see Northampton town play.

SPEAKER_08 42:15

Oh wow, yeah. That'd be interesting, wouldn't it? That would be fantastic.

SPEAKER_03 42:19

Um what did it mean to the two of you to have that success at uh at Zanvor? Because I mean your family must be be so proud of the two of you put in great performances and you achieve those top tens. I mean, it must have been been really nice.

SPEAKER_08 42:31

Yeah, it was fine, yeah, it's beautiful.

SPEAKER_03 42:34

Yeah, just fine. Yeah, it was fine, yeah. I think you're being a bit coy now, because it's an achievement, isn't it, for two brothers in a in the same championship to both have some some really good consistency and and success. I mean that yeah that means a lot. I mean I I guess you've got very proud parents. Yeah, so yeah. Yeah, fantastic, really good. Um so Truxton this weekend, uh a very different circuit, very quick. Um what do you make of Truxton, you Roman, first of all?

SPEAKER_08 43:00

Yeah, Truxton's fine, yeah, it's fun. Um yeah, in the first session we were um purple in like the last chicken, but um yeah, we were not good in sector one, so we're like four tenths there, which is unfortunate. But yeah, just uh we'll put it together in the second session, hopefully. Fix our sector one and we'll be there.

SPEAKER_03 43:20

Okay, you were very close, very close, weren't you, in your in your times. What about you, Cash? How do you find Truxton?

SPEAKER_08 43:25

Uh yeah, definitely lacking a little bit in the first sector, but uh we see where all the time is and then we'll uh hopefully we'll try to fix that. Yeah, absolutely.

SPEAKER_03 43:32

That's only FP1, isn't it? You've done so far. But uh I think the weather's gonna be pretty good this weekend. It's a circuit that demands a lot of respect, isn't it? Because it's so quick. It is pretty quick, yeah. What's what's the what's the corner or corners that you like most? The challenging ones where you go through it with a smile on your face and go, wow, that was great.

SPEAKER_08 43:51

I mean, when you hit the chicane right, the last chicane ride's pretty fun. Yeah, just like bounce it over the curb. It's very hustle. Goodwood's not too hard because it's Mostly flat. Normally it's flat today and so yeah.

SPEAKER_03 44:03

I interesting point you make, Cash, because I d Thruxton is a great circuit and everybody talks about you know the two uh the the first couple of corners and then then it's eleven eleven and eleven, eleven, twelve round the back, which are which are very quick. But I think you're right, the chicane is a great place to watch because you've got that right, left, right flick, yeah, and and the there's the tire stacks and then you've got the the curbs which incidents haven't there, yeah. Absolutely. I mean you you must have to be very careful of the of the curbs because they can wreck you know a suspension on an F4 car can be a bit more.

SPEAKER_08 44:33

Yeah, and they're definitely not full and kill your F4.

SPEAKER_03 44:36

Absolutely. Um do you think you're you're both much more settled in now? I mean you we've seen improvements in both your performances, capped off by that brilliant weekend at Samvor. But you both feel that you're really settling into it and and earning your places and your points now?

SPEAKER_08 44:49

Uh yeah. Uh I think we were a bit better. Uh we've been a bit better, uh like for like the first like three rounds, we're quite good. But uh, and then yeah, I think we just need to pick up that pace a bit more.

SPEAKER_03 44:59

Yeah. Is that is that fair you feel the same, Roman?

SPEAKER_08 45:01

Uh yeah, kind of, yeah.

SPEAKER_03 45:04

How different is each of your driving styles?

SPEAKER_08 45:08

Uh can't leak. I'm not exactly uh I don't know. Like a little bit different, just a little bit, but like I don't know, not much.

SPEAKER_03 45:17

I mean, do you see yourselves as as risk takers, as as quite aggressive drivers, or are you you know very very safe drivers?

SPEAKER_08 45:25

Um I'm definitely not safe, but like I'm not I'm not like most aggressive on the grid, but yeah, there's definitely more aggressive drivers on the grid, but I'm not safe.

SPEAKER_03 45:35

And we we I won't ask you who, we'll keep that between us. Roman, what about you? I mean it's a similar sort of style.

SPEAKER_08 45:41

Yeah, I guess so, yeah. For aggressiveness, I think I'd have a bit more aggressive, but like Yeah, absolutely.

SPEAKER_03 45:46

What are you hoping for from this weekend then? By the time we go home on Sunday, what are you hoping to have achieved?

SPEAKER_08 45:53

Uh just consistently being the top ten, definitely. I think we got the pace if we fix our first sector. Um so yeah, you know that.

SPEAKER_03 46:01

Excellent. Um, and just finally, Sunday, which you're now very used to, is when the autograph session um takes place and the fans all queue up. Have you enjoyed signing autographs for the fans this year?

SPEAKER_08 46:12

Yes, definitely it's fun. Yeah, the fans are great.

SPEAKER_03 46:15

Has one of you been more popular than the other?

SPEAKER_08 46:18

Uh I don't know. I don't know. Maybe him. I mean, it's kind of crowded at the driver who's signing, so like I'm standing behind a bunch of people normally, a bunch of other drivers. So like you need to push your way to the front cache, then I try, but like uh I'm a bit small, so it's like quite tricky.

SPEAKER_03 46:35

That means you've got to get your elbows out and get to that front bit. And what about uh I I've asked lots of the drivers this, but what about your own um signatures or autographs? Are they are they really flamboyant or or are they readable?

SPEAKER_08 46:46

Mine's readable, it's like very basic. It's just my my my it's just a C and an F, just that's mine's I not very readable. It's just a squiggle, isn't it? Yeah, basically.

SPEAKER_03 46:57

Maybe that says something about your little difference in personality types, whereas yours is slightly minimalist and yours is unreadable, isn't it? The psychologists have a field day with that, wouldn't they? Yeah, yeah. Fantastic. Um guys, really good to see you. I'm so pleased you had a good um a good sandvote uh which sets you up nicely, not just for this weekend, but for the rest of the season. Um and it's always good to uh to chat to the two of you as well. So have a fantastic thruxton.

SPEAKER_09 47:21

Thank you.

SPEAKER_03 47:22

And sadly that's it for this week. Doesn't time fly when you're enjoying yourself? Qualifying for the Codola Watch's pole position awards take place on Saturday morning at 11.25, before race one gets underway later that afternoon at 10 past four. Two more races, the reverse grid contest at 1 o'clock, and the longer feature race at 4.35 will then run on Sunday. Saturday's race one will be live streamed globally on the British F4 YouTube channel, while on Sunday, UK fans can watch the action as part of ITV's free-to-air coverage of the BTCC package. And fans outside the UK can see all the F1 action live on the Championships YouTube channel. Elsewhere, you can follow all the on-track action via the TSL live timing website and keep up with all the latest F4 news via the usual social media channels, and you can hear all the exclusive driver interviews directly after qualifying and each race on the audio page via the British F4 website at FIAformula4.com and of course the main podcast channels. You can also enjoy this podcast as many times as you wish by using the listen again feature on the website. Available straight after this broadcast. I'd like to say a huge thank you to the many thousands of you who tune in each race weekend for Friday Night F4. Genuinely means a great deal to the whole team here to know that you are listening, and I hope you continue to enjoy the podcasts. Join us again at 6 pm on Friday, the 21st of August, when the championship rolls into Donington Park, when my colleague Laura Cook will be your host, as I will be on my jollies in Andalusia, all Tapas and Tinto de Borano. Meanwhile, my thanks to the team in the F4 Race Centre, Ben Bunel, Eve Lake Range, and to producer Matt Jones. This has been a create media production for the Vera Tools British F4 Championship, certified by FIA. I'm Steve Taylor, thank you for listening.